steve, are the quintessential reagan democrat and they would be an counties adjacent to his spurt like beaver and westmoreland and washington ingrained and further to the east, cambridge, fayette. those counties have a propensity to vote republican, particularly in big elections. they're culturally conservative. pro-gun, pro-life, not particularly fond of. if you think of pennsylvania and drive big t. at the center of the state and fan out across the new york border, not quite getting to the northeastern part of the state, just a big t. that's the conservative blue area of the state. it's basically white. as protestant, doesn't have a definable ethnic group particularly. once you get used to the susquehanna river, with the exception of a few counties, the demography changes sharply. let's go down to the southeast. philadelphia heavily democratic, but before suburban ring counties, they are the same counties. they have an average two typically to win pennsylvania, you have to do very well in those same counties and then moving up a little bit to the north you have the lehigh valley, allentown